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Winter Physician Retreats

JAN 24 – 27  😍 LAUNCH YOUR IDEAL CLINIC OR COACHING PRACTICE. LIVE RETREAT on Oregon coast. You’ll leave with fee schedule, contracts & website copy to get ideal clients immediately. Includes 20-hour Fast-Track, weekly coaching until March & 30 hours CME.

JAN 27 – 30 ❤️‍🩹 PHYSICIAN TRAUMA RECOVERY. Stressed or depressed? You CAN heal from intrusive thoughts related to suicide loss, patient deaths, medical mistakes, toxic workplaces, med board complaints & more. LIVE RETREAT on Oregon coast includes weekly peer support until March. 100% Confidential. No paper trail.

FEB 4 – 5  🧠 CREATE YOUR IDEAL PRACTICE. YES! You CAN quit assembly-line medicine & do what you really love! Create a coaching or clinic side gig that becomes your main gig. VIRTUAL RETREAT includes 20-hour Fast-Track, weekly coaching until March & 30 hours CME.

LIVE RETREATS INCLUDE: most meals, all educational sessions, spa services & weekly support now through March 💚 Retreats are 5K & 100% DEDUCTIBLE as business expense 💚

To join us: Contact Dr. Wible here.

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What Physicians Are Saying

This retreat was the most amazing experience of my life, It really was. Thank you. You saved my life.” ~ Family Medicine Resident, PA

“In my life as the son of a doctor and a psychiatrist, I’ve run across all kinds of would-be healers and experts of the mind. I’ve never come across anyone like you or anything like this experience—the depth of clarity and awareness that you brought to this process you were facilitating within me—I just don’t know how to talk about it or find words. You were laser-focused on lighting a path for me to discover my dreams. You were working on a different dimension that I couldn’t quite see. And you did it without any pretenses, judgement or bullshit.” ~ Psychiatrist, WI

“Having been hospitalized several times for severe depression and suicidality, I can absolutely say that Pamela’s environment is much more conducive to healing than a psychiatric ward. I’m launching my own clinic when I get home to escape a very toxic operating room environment. Oh, and I left as an author.”    ~ Anesthesiologist, TX

“I came to you a broken person. What is the poem on the Statue of Liberty? Give me your poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free. I’ll never forget the feeling of you speaking to me in a way that was very directed. I felt I was breathing the light of your breath through the air into my lungs that was birthing this life inside of me. . . I love how you specialize in healing physicians’ souls.” ~ Family Physician, OR

To join us: Contact Dr. Wible here.

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Physician Support Groups (Sundays) | Peer Support for Doctors →

Physician Trauma Recovery (2 pm EST) ~ Heal from doctor suicides & suicidal thoughts, childhood or residency abuse & more. (2 hr).  ❤️ Pandemic Healing (4 pm EST) ~ Get help for long haul, job loss, death of family, peers. (1 hr).  ❤️  Narrative Medicine (5 pm EST) ~ Share your story among a nurturing group of doctors. (1 hr). 🧠 Business Mastermind (8 pm EST) ~ Learn advanced strategies for your ideal clinic, coaching, or consulting business (must be Fast Track grad). (1 hr).  Join our live retreat.  ❤️  Curated by Dr. Wible @ $97/mo. All healers welcome—every Sunday.

Register now & get your confidential Zoom link.

Monthly virtual & live retreats   ❤️   Plan your personal retreat

Free doctor suicide helpline(Weekly sessions nonrefundable once link shared)

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Why Parents Force Kids To Be Doctors →

Future Doctor Babies

Do #FutureDoctor Babies Risk Future Depression?

When I see an infant dressed as a “future doctor,” I cringe.

I’m used to helping premeds, not preemies or toddlers in surgical scrubs. How do I stage an intervention with parents of a premed baby?

I’m Dr. Pamela Wible. I run a suicide helpline—for doctors. When I ask, “When did you decide to be a doctor?” Many say grade school—some as young as two!

I used to be in awe of their inner knowing. How can a toddler (not yet potty trained) be aiming for med school?

My friend knew at three. Her dad would always point at her in her diapers and say, “There’s my doctor!” Now she’s a nurse practitioner in her forties with depression—still trying to get into med school—still seeking validation from her deceased dad—still wanting to fulfill his dream.

Parental pressure to pursue a medical career leads to depression—which may worsen as a physician.

Last year, I got this three-word email: “Please help me.” I called right back. A woman answered—with a noose around her neck. First-generation Korean American. Her parents always demanded, “Either be a doctor or pharmacist.” Her sister’s a pharmacist. So she’s the doctor (in a toxic residency). She felt her only way out was death. I talked her down. Today she’s alive—after a career change.

Both women were branded #FutureDoctors as babies. Both were nudged in subtle—and not-so-subtle ways—since birth to pursue a profession with high rates of depression and suicide.

Why do parents pressure children to go to medical school? Is this a form of child abuse by well-meaning parents who only “want the best” for their kids?

Top 10 reasons parents force babies to be doctors

1. Trophy children

Social currency and bragging rights. A physician trophy child with the best test scores means superior genes. How important is the trophy? After losing their son to suicide in med school—a family was given the option to sign a nondisclosure agreement—to never speak about their son’s death—in exchange for his diploma. They chose the diploma.

2. Proof of great parenting

A medical diploma proves mommy and daddy did everything for their kids and were the best parents ever!

3. Financial security

Babies are an investment and parents want a financial return. “We’re poor, so we’re counting on you to be a doctor or we wasted our lives.” My friend’s parents actually say this to her.

4. Parent’s dream

Family members will implant (even subconsciously) their own unfulfilled dreams in their offspring. Students have told me, “I hate medical school, but my parents want me to be a doctor.”

5. Tradition

Some families want baby boys to have matching circumcisions, others want babies in matching professions. A sad med student from India told me she had “no choice”—everyone in her family is a doctor!

6. Playing it “safe”

Is choosing a “non-risky” career for your newborn better than letting your kid pick a  job they’d love? Parents believe sending their child to train in a hospital with hundreds of doctors is the safest place on Earth—until they lose their #FutureDoctor to suicide.

7. Peer pressure

When Jewish mothers say, “my son the doctor,” other Jewish mothers—like my grandma—want the same thing. As a mama’s boy, my dad was told to be a doctor. He planned to be a sculptor and work in motion pictures—but ended up a theatrical pathologist sculpting corpses in the morgue.

8. Pinnacle of success

The doctor-as-God image makes medicine feel more like a religion than a profession. Giving birth to a #FutureDoctor must feel like birthing Jesus.

My ex has audio of his mom reading him a book: “A Trip to the Doctor” at age two. In her Brooklyn accent she pleads, “Don’t you want to be a doctor to help all the boys and girls?” He screams, “No! I don’t wanna be a doctor!” She keeps repeating her question—until he agrees.

9. Peace of mind

When your kid is well paid and can save your life in the middle of the night with the best medical care ever—you’ll have no more worries.

10. Parental love

My divorced parents are not-so-emotionally-available workaholic doctors. Both tried to talk me out of medicine, but I knew as a kid the only way to spend time with them was to tag along to work in the morgue and psychiatric hospitals (and I loved it!).

When I became a doctor, I interrogated my parents on why they became doctors. Separately (so they couldn’t cheat). Both listed the usual: help people, good money, stable job. “But why?” I pressed them for the real reason. Dad poured another glass of vodka and murmured, “So my mother would love me.” Mom got pissed before spewing out the truth, “Because I thought my mother would finally love me.”

So yep, I get really creeped out by these #FutureDoctor onesies.

Future Doctor Onesie


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Doctor Buys Patients Gym Memberships →

Fear and isolation have led to alarming rates of anxiety, depression—even suicides—in our community and exercise is a great way to shed ‘pandemic pounds,’ improve mental health, and combat social withdrawal—all while supporting a local business—a win-win for everyone.

So I’m announcing a philanthropic community partnership with IN Shape Fitness to help combat the devastating physical, emotional, and economic setbacks to my friends, neighbors, and patients with free gym memberships.

I’m Dr. Pamela Wible and I run a suicide helpline—for doctors—a profession with a high rate of suicide. We can all see the emotional toll of the pandemic on patients—and doctors. When I’m not on the phone with suicidal med students and doctors from around the country (& even as far as India) you can often find me at the gym.

My goal is to inspire people to exercise—a great first-line intervention for anxiety, depression, and suicidal thinking—and get back in shape physically and emotionally.

I invite you to join IN Shape Athletic Club—your new full-service fitness facility featuring free weights, Paramount circuit training, modern cardiovascular equipment, tanning beds—even childcare. You’ll receive a free orientation with your own certified personal trainer to demo proper technique and provide the right exercise plan to achieve your health goals. Enjoy group yoga, dance, strength-training, and Zumba classes—all free with your membership.

Are you ready to get IN Shape?

Call 541-687-2200 for a personal tour of our spacious, safe, clean, and friendly club with staff who always welcome you by name—with a smile. Plus I’d LOVE to exercise with you! 💕

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Is Premed Depression Worse than Medical Student Depression in Medical School? →

Is Premed Depression Worse than Medical Student Depression in Medical School? Do mental health issues caused by being a premedical student get better when accepted to medical school?

Being premed is not easy with all the premed stress. Premed stress can be worse than medical school stress for some students.

Practicing doctors may not recall what it was like being a college student with the intention of attending med school. Premed anxiety and premed depression can be serious issues. I know of several premedical student suicides.

I’m Dr. Pamela Wible and I run a doctor suicide helpline. I also hear from medical students and premedical students who may be suffering with suicidal thoughts.

Premed students often study around the clock. They are focused and determined to be successful. Getting into medical school is their ultimate goal. I was a nervous wreck as a premedical student studying for the MCAT. I broke out in a full-body psychoneurotic rash during the exam.

What about premed student burnout? Premedical students work hard and study hard, often forgetting to take care of their physical and mental health. We often discuss physician “burnout”—which is really the result of abusive employers and hazardous working conditions that may lead to suicide.


Premedical students may develop a mental illness or physical illness, such as high blood pressure. Premed depression can result from identifying closely with academic success, and not taking time to rest and recover from an ongoing intensive workload.

Are premed programs good for screening out candidates who will not survive med school?

Some premedical students get “weeded out” during the process of preparing to apply to medical school. Unfortunately, they may be the very people who would have made excellent doctors.

Imagine a student who realizes that the emotional exhaustion caused by an intensive premed program is not worth the stress—and then decides to change majors and career plans.

For students who realize they do not want to pursue medicine early on, while still premed and in college, they may have dodged a bullet. Working in medicine causes severe anxiety for many doctors—a profession with a high suicide rate.

Students who thrive in premed and continue thriving in medical school are the ones who are willing to take on any amount of work and stress, regardless of the toll it takes on their health. The medical education system screens for people who are willing to submit to abuse.

How can premed depression be prevented?

College students in a premedical program should be better prepared for what’s coming ahead. Rather than focusing on acceptance to medical school as the ultimate goal, they should investigate what life will be like as a medical student and a doctor.

Many doctors are plagued by suicidal thoughts—especially when they discover that a medical career is not what they expected. Doctors have one of the highest suicide rates of all professions.

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Are Burnout and Medical Errors Among US Surgeons a Major Problem? →

Are Burnour and Medical Errors Among US Surgeons a Major Problem?
Surgeons are not Navy SEALs and should not be trained or treated like frontline special forces.

We must remember surgeon burnout when we are addressing health worker burnout. Surgeons suffer burnout more than most other medical specialties.

I’m Dr. Pamela Wible and I run a free doctor suicide helpline. I hear from physicians from all specialties—including surgeons. Doctors tend to minimize their suffering by using terms like “stress” and “burnout.”

First, I want to point out that referring to stress caused by an abusive workplace as “physician burnout” is offensive—and covers up what amounts to human rights violations in medicine. Instead of talking about doctors being burned out, we should focus on workplace abuse that leads to real mental health diagnoses—depression, anxiety, PTSD—even passive and active suicidal thoughts.

Free doctor suicide helpline.

Yet while I strongly disagree with the use of the term physician burnout, I will use it here, because it is a term we are familiar with. In fact, for the last forty years large healthcare corporations, residency training programs, and medical boards have loved talking about how they are going to fix doctor burnout. Yet doctors are faring worse than ever. Why?

Healthcare institutions are complicit in causing the burnout problem, yet now, they want to help. They want to seek out which cogs in the machine are broken, so they can be discarded. They have no real interest in helping. Though they have figured out how to make money from burnout workshops and “forced wellness” activities.

Here’s how medical institutions use the word burnout to blame doctors for hazardous working conditions:

Residency programs push their physicians in training to the breaking point. They are overworked until they suffer from emotional exhaustion and physical exhaustion. Some even attempt suicide or die by suicide.

Read more on how to prevent surgeon burnout, medical mistakes, and even suicide . . .

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